
TOEFL Speaking (for the AI Era)
Get the inside track on all things TOEFL® Speaking—from expert breakdowns of the test’s scoring rubrics to cutting-edge research on how AI like SpeechRater™ evaluates your performance.
Whether it's leveraging movie-based learning techniques or diving into the psychology behind language assessment, each episode gives you a front-row seat to the latest strategies, tips, and tools to help you master the Speaking section.
We don’t just stop at exam prep. We explore the bigger picture of how the TOEFL shapes language learning, how automated scoring impacts your results, and what really goes on behind the scenes at ETS. If you want to understand the nuances of TOEFL Speaking and learn how to make your test performance stand out, this podcast is for you.
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TOEFL Speaking (for the AI Era)
From Narration to Argumentation: The Speaking Skills Progression from TOEFL Primary to TOEFL iBT
How do young learners transition from simple storytelling to structured argumentation in English? In this episode, we explore the evolution of speaking skills from the TOEFL Primary to the TOEFL iBT, uncovering the linguistic and cognitive milestones along the way.
Join us as we break down:
- The TOEFL Primary test and how it assesses young learners' speaking skills
- How AI-powered tools like SpeechRater provide real-time pronunciation and fluency feedback
- The global challenges of English language learning and how AI is bridging accessibility gaps
- The role of AI and personalized learning in improving speaking performance
- How teachers can use AI to support students while maintaining the essential human connection
With insights from cutting-edge research and real-world applications, we dive into the future of AI-driven language education and its impact on learners worldwide. Whether you're a student, educator, or language enthusiast, this episode provides practical takeaways on mastering spoken English for high-stakes tests like the TOEFL iBT.
Tune in and discover how technology is revolutionizing the way we learn and teach English!
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Okay, so we're diving into the TOEFL primary tests today. You've probably heard of the TOEFL, but did you know there's a version for younger English language learners? Yeah, for kids all over the world. And we're going to unpack what makes these tests tick.
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See if they actually work. Exactly. And we've got a ton of research on this.
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What's really interesting is how global these tests are. It's not just about translating questions. It's more like capturing what young learners need.
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No matter where they are in the world. Right. Yeah.
And the research really digs into that. It's like, they took a snapshot of how kids learn English everywhere. From Brazil? Chile.
They even looked at Sesame Street English. Which is pretty cool. It is.
And it's not just about the content they teach either, right? Definitely not. They wanted to make sure a test designed for Japan would work just as well in Costa Rica. Makes sense.
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So they had teachers from all these different countries weigh in. To give feedback. I like that.
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Yeah. Make sure the tasks are relevant for everyone. So they really tried to make it reflect what's happening in classrooms globally.
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But how can we be sure these tests actually measure what they're supposed to? Well, that's where this idea of a validity argument comes in. A validity argument. Yeah.
Think of it like a detective's case file. Okay. I'm intrigued.
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It's full of evidence showing that TOEFL primary scores really reflect a kid's English skills. So like proof they did their homework. Exactly.
We're talking hardcore statistical studies proving the test's reliability. Okay. So what kind of evidence are we talking about? Well, for one thing, kids tend to get similar scores if they take the test again.
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Meaning it's consistent. Right. And the scores actually show the different levels of ability.
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So a student with stronger skills scores higher. Exactly. That's reassuring.
But let's talk about something that could really change the game for these young learners prepping for the TOEFL. Specifically, the speaking test. Oh, yeah.
Artificial intelligence. Oh, that's a big one. Huge.
Especially for the speaking test. That's where things get really real for a lot of students. Because it's one thing to understand the rules.
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Right. But it's totally different to actually speak fluently. To actually use the language.
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And that's where AI tools are coming in. Okay. Now I'm picturing a robot tutor.
But seriously, how's AI helping kids improve their speaking? Well, think about platforms that use speech rater technology. Speech rater? Yeah. This tech can analyze a student's spoken responses.
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And not just that it can give them feedback on their pronunciation. In real time? Yes. Like right away.
It can also tell them about their fluency and vocabulary. So it's like having a personal pronunciation coach 24-7. Exactly.
And that's incredibly valuable, especially for students who don't have regular access to native English speakers. I see what you mean. It helps them pinpoint what to work on.
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And practice in a more effective way. That's amazing. It is.
It's really breaking down barriers for these students. Especially with all the challenges of learning English in a globalized world. Like what are those students in areas where they don't have the best teachers or resources? You're right.
It's a huge problem. And AI is like a bridge, providing instruction even when a classroom isn't an option. Filling those gaps.
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Exactly. Providing support where it's needed most. This is really fascinating.
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So are there any other global challenges that the research highlights? Oh, definitely. One big one is the diversity of English language learners. Because everyone comes from a different background.
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Right. Different cultures, different languages. And you can't expect one test to capture all the nuances.
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Not perfectly. And that's where AI can adapt. Okay.
How so? AI algorithms can be trained to recognize different accents and dialects. That makes assessments more fair. More accurate for everyone.
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So it's not just about giving feedback. Right. It's about tailoring that feedback to the individual student.
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Giving them specific insights. So they understand their strengths and where they need to grow. That's where AI-powered tools really excel.
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So AI analyzes pronunciation, helps with fluency, and now gives detailed, personalized feedback. It's like a custom roadmap to English proficiency. Exactly.
And as the technology improves, we can expect even better tools, richer feedback. Making learning even more effective and engaging. Absolutely.
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This is really exciting to think about. It is. But let's not forget about the human element here.
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How does all this AI actually support teachers, especially when it comes to something like the TOEFL speaking test? Well, AI can be a huge help for teachers, freeing up their time so they can focus on guiding and mentoring their students. Okay. So less paperwork, more quality time with students.
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Exactly. I like the sound of that. What other ways can AI help teachers in the English language classroom? Well, it can analyze student data.
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To identify where they're struggling. Exactly. Teachers can then step in early and provide support before a student falls behind.
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Like an early warning system. That's a great way to put it. It helps teachers stay ahead of those learning challenges.
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So it's not about replacing teachers. No, it's about giving them more tools to be even more effective. More insights.
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Right. AI can also help personalize the learning experience. By analyzing student data.
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Exactly. It can recommend activities and materials that are tailored to each student's needs and learning style. This reminds me of those AI-powered platforms for TOEFL prep.
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We were talking about them earlier. Those same ideas can be used in the classroom. Absolutely.
It's about creating a more individualized and effective learning experience. Whether a student is prepping for the TOEFL or just trying to improve their English overall. We've talked a lot about the benefits of AI.
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But are there any downsides or challenges that we should be thinking about? That's a great question. One concern is bias in the AI algorithm. Because if the data used to train them isn't diverse enough.
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It can lead to unfair results. Disadvantaging certain groups of learners. That's a good point.
We need to make sure these tools are fair for everyone. Definitely. Another challenge is accessibility.
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Making sure that everyone can benefit from these advancements, no matter their background or location. We don't want to create a digital divide. Absolutely.
And lastly, it's important to remember AI is a tool. Not a replacement for human connection. Right.
It can't replace the role of a teacher in creating a supportive and engaging learning environment. So it's about finding the right balance. Between technology and human interaction.
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That's how we create the best possible learning experience. Very well said. Let's bring it back to the TOEFL speaking test itself.
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How does all of this connect to those scores we talked about? Well, the speaking test requires students to produce language spontaneously and in real time. It's not just about knowing the rules. It's about using them.
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Right. In a live speaking situation. That can be intimidating for many students.
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Especially those who haven't had much practice with native speakers. Exactly. And that's where AI can really shine.
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How so? It provides a safe space for students to practice their speaking. Get detailed feedback. Like having a virtual speaking part.
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You got it. And remember those speech rater platforms we discussed? Yeah. They can analyze speech in real time.
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Giving feedback on pronunciation, fluency, and vocabulary. Exactly. Like a personal coach right there in their pocket.
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It sounds like AI is changing how students prepare for the TOEFL speaking test. It really is. And it's not just about the technology.
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It's about the personalized feedback and support. Students can focus their practice on areas where they need the most improvement. So they're more likely to succeed on the test.
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Exactly. And that brings us back to the big picture. AI is making these advanced resources accessible to learners worldwide.
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It's about overcoming language barriers and achieving goals. Whether that's a good TOEFL score or simply communicating effectively in English. Absolutely.
And I think that's a powerful message. AI has the potential to change how we learn and teach English. Making quality instruction available to everyone.
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Regardless of background or location. It's an exciting time to be involved in English language education. It really is.
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But before we wrap up, I'm curious about your thoughts on the future. What advancements do you see on the horizon? That's a great question. And honestly, I'm very optimistic about the future of learning.
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I think we'll see major progress in personalized learning pathways. Okay. What do you mean by that? Imagine AI algorithms that analyze a student's learning style strengths, weaknesses, even their interests.
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To create a custom learning plan. Exactly. Like a personal AI tutor.
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That knows how you learn best and what keeps you motivated. Precisely. And these plans wouldn't be fixed.
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They would change as the AI learns about the student, keeping them challenged and engaged. That's amazing. It's like a self-driving car for your education.
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I like that analogy. What else? Well, another exciting area is formative assessment. We've talked about summative assessments like the TOEFL.
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But how can AI be used for a formative assessment? It can provide ongoing feedback during the learning process. So instead of waiting for a score at the end. Imagine an AI writing tool that not only checks for errors, but also gives feedback on clarity, organization, and style.
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Or a speaking tutor that gives instant feedback on pronunciation. That's the idea. It could completely transform how students learn, giving them support every step of the way.
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And that would be incredibly motivating. It would. It helps them see their progress.
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Identify what to improve. And feel more ownership over their learning. It's about empowering them to be active in their learning.
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Precisely. And as AI technology gets better, we'll see even more innovative ways to support English language learning. It's inspiring to think about the possibilities.
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We've covered so much today from the research behind the TOEFL primary tests to the potential of AI. It's been a great conversation. And I think our listeners walking away with a lot to think about.
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A glimpse into the future of English language learning. Absolutely. But let's bring it back to the present for a moment.
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Yeah. For someone facing these tests soon, what's the most important thing to remember? I think it's key to remember that these tests measure real-world English skills. It's not just about memorizing rules.
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It's about communicating effectively in different situations. Exactly. Focus on building those practical communication skills.
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The abilities that will help them in everyday life. And with all these advancements in learning tools. AI-powered tools.
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Right. Students have more resources than ever to prepare. And to feel confident.
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Absolutely. It's a really exciting time for education. With a little curiosity and a willingness to try new things, the world of English learning is wide open.
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Well said. So to sum it up, we've looked at the TOEFL primary tests, explored the challenges and successes of young learners, and seen how AI is changing education. It's been a fascinating journey.
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And I hope our listener feels inspired to keep learning. To keep exploring. Until next time, keep those minds curious and those learning journeys exciting.
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Absolutely. So it's not just about giving feedback. It's about tailoring that feedback to each student.
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Giving them specific insight. So they understand their strengths and where they need to grow. That's where AI-powered tools really excel.
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Exactly. And as the technology improves, we can expect even better tools, richer feedback. Making learning even more effective and engaging.
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Absolutely. This is really exciting to think about. It is.
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But let's not forget about the human element here. Yeah. How does all this AI actually support teachers? Especially when it comes to something like the TOEFL speaking test.
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Well, AI can be a huge help for teachers. Freeing up their time so they can focus on guiding and mentoring their students. Okay.
So less paperwork, more quality time with students. Exactly. I like the sound of that.
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What other ways can AI help teachers in the English language classroom? Well, it can analyze student data. To identify where they're struggling. Exactly.
Teachers can then step in early and provide support before a student falls behind. Like an early warning system. That's a great way to put it.
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It helps teachers stay ahead of those learning challenges. So it's not about replacing teachers. No.
It's about giving them more tools to be even more effective. More insights. Right.
AI can also help personalize the learning experience. By analyzing student data. Exactly.
It can recommend activities and materials that are tailored to each student's needs and learning style. This reminds me of those AI-powered platforms for TOEFL prep. We were talking about them earlier.
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Those same ideas can be used in the classroom. Absolutely. It's about creating a more individualized and effective learning experience.
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Whether a student is prepping for the TOEFL or just trying to improve their English overall. We've talked a lot about the benefits of AI. But are there any downsides or challenges that we should be thinking about? That's a great question.
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One concern is bias in the AI algorithms. Because if the data used to train them isn't diverse enough... It can lead to unfair results. Yeah.
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Disadvantaging certain groups of learners. That's a good point. We need to make sure these tools are fair for everyone.
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Definitely. Another challenge is accessibility. Making sure that everyone can benefit from these advancements.
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No matter their background or location. We don't want to create a digital divide. Absolutely.
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And lastly, it's important to remember AI is a tool. Not a replacement for human connection. Right.
It can't replace the role of a teacher in creating a supportive and engaging learning environment. So it's about finding the right balance. Between technology and human interaction.
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That's how we create the best possible learning experience. Very well said. Let's bring it back to the TOEFL speaking test itself.
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How does all of this connect to those scores we talked about? Well, the speaking test requires students to produce language spontaneously and in real time. It's not just about knowing the rules. It's about using them.
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Right. In a live speaking situation, that can be intimidating for many students. Especially those who haven't had much practice with native speakers.
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Exactly. And that's where AI can really shine. How so? It provides a safe space for students to practice their speaking.
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Get detailed feedback. Like having a virtual speaking partner. You got it.
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And remember those speech reader platforms we discussed? Yeah. They can analyze speech in real time. Giving feedback on pronunciation, fluency, and vocabulary.
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Exactly. Yeah. Like a personal coach right there in their pocket.
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It sounds like AI is changing how students prepare for the TOEFL speaking test. It really is. And it's not just about the technology.
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It's about the personalized feedback and support. Students can focus their practice on areas where they need the most improvement. So they're more likely to succeed on the test.
(14:52 - 14:59)
Exactly. And that brings us back to the big picture. AI is making these advanced resources accessible to learners worldwide.
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It's about overcoming language barriers and achieving goals. Whether that's a good TOEFL score or simply communicating effectively in English. Absolutely.
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And I think that's a powerful message. AI has the potential to change how we learn and teach English. Making quality instruction available to everyone.
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Regardless of background or location. It's an exciting time to be involved in English language education. It really is.
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But before we wrap up, I'm curious about your thoughts on the future. What advancements do you see on the horizon? That's a great question. And honestly, I'm very optimistic about the future of learning.
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I think we'll see major progress in personalized learning pathways. Okay, what do you mean by that? Imagine AI algorithms that analyze a student's learning style, strengths, weaknesses, even their interests. To create a custom learning plan.
(15:46 - 15:51)
Exactly. Like a personal AI tutor. That knows how you learn best and what keeps you motivated.
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Precisely. And these plans wouldn't be fixed. They would change as the AI learns about the student.
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Keeping them challenged and engaged. That's amazing. It's like a self-driving car for your education.
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I like that analogy. Yeah. What else? Well, another exciting area is formative assessment.
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We've talked about summative assessments like the TOEFL. But how can AI be used for formative assessment? It can provide ongoing feedback during the learning process. So instead of waiting for a score at the end.
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Exactly. Imagine an AI rating tool that not only checks for errors, but also gives feedback on clarity, organization, and style. Or a speaking tutor that gives instant feedback on pronunciation.
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That's the idea. It could completely transform how students learn, giving them support every step of the way. And that would be incredibly motivating.
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It would. It helps them see their progress. Identify what to improve.
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And feel more ownership over their learning. It's about empowering them to be active in their learning. Precisely.
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And as AI technology gets better, we'll see even more innovative ways to support English language learning. It's inspiring to think about the possibilities. We've covered so much today, from the research behind the TOEFL primary tests to the potential of AI.
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It's been a great conversation. And I think our listeners walking away with a lot to think about. A glimpse into the future of English language learning.
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Absolutely. But let's bring it back to the present for a moment. For someone facing these tests soon, what's the most important thing to remember? I think it's key to remember that these tests measure real-world English skills.
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It's not just about memorizing rules. It's about communicating effectively in different situations. Exactly.
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Focus on building those practical communication skills. The abilities that will help them in everyday life. And with all these advancements in learning tools.
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The AI-powered tools. Right. Students have more resources than ever to prepare.
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And to feel confident. Absolutely. It's a really exciting time for education.
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With a little curiosity and a willingness to try new things, the world of English learning is wide open. Well said. So to sum it up, we've looked at the TOEFL primary tests.
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Explored the challenges and successes of young learners. And seen how AI is changing education. It's been a fascinating journey.
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And I hope our listener feels inspired to keep learning. To keep exploring. Until next time, keep those minds curious and those learning journeys exciting.
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Absolutely.